Grapple City Rewind
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Grapple City Rewind
Dick Blood - WCW Beach Blast 1992
Take a trip back to the Gulf Coast for a sand-filled spectacle at WCW Beach Blast 1992! Bradley and Aaron break down this summer oddity that featured top rope DQs (thanks, Bill Watts), Sting vs. Cactus Jack in a wild brawl, an underrated Ironman match between Rude and Steamboat, and a baffling bikini contest thread hosted by Johnny B. Badd. Along the way, the hosts also dig into Hangman’s AEW resurgence, the Evolution women’s PLE, and TikTok listener beef over Moxley’s heat. Plus, Buff Bagwell’s real-life drama and a glimpse at a younger, more tanned Eric Bischoff. It’s a Play on the GCR rating scale — not perfect, but oddly charming.
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AA RON
Hey everyone, this is Aaron Fink from Grapple City Rewind. If you like what you hear on this episode, give us a follow, leave a review, cut a promo on us by calling 626-657-SLAM.
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Bradley Palermo
Today, we're heading back to the summer of 1992 when En Vogue and Pearl Jam ruled the billboard charts. Everyone was rocking hyper-colored shirts like it was science fiction. And WCW brought the beach to the ring, literally complete with sand and a bikini swimsuit contest.
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Bradley Palermo
This is Beach Blast. I almost said Bachelorette. Bachelorette. Beach Blast featuring some pretty cool like like athletic contests.
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Bradley Palermo
it was It was an interesting time where Bill Watts was doing the booking, I believe.
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AA RON
huh
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Bradley Palermo
They were kind of in between Rhodes and Bischoff and some pretty some pretty cool stuff it's kind of a kind of a deep cut but maybe maybe a little underrated before we get to that i think aaron and i well i'm bradley palermo as always with aaron fink and aaron maybe we should talk a little bit about the current product i know this week has been kind of like a come down from the weekend before it was it was pretty crazy but we weren't we weren't around on that insane wrestle war weekend
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AA RON
Yeah.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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AA RON
We were not, but it was a fun weekend. had NXT show on Saturday. We had AEW's All In on Saturday. We had Saturday night's main event from WWE wwewe Saturday night.
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AA RON
And then Sunday we had Evolution. um I think.
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Bradley Palermo
all
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AA RON
What?
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Bradley Palermo
All kinds of shit.
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AA RON
Yeah, all kinds of shit.
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Bradley Palermo
i thought I thought it was kind of funny that that Bill Goldberg got cut off in his his goodbye speech on his final match. He got pretty mad.
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AA RON
He got very grumpy about it too. i don't know if you saw.
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Bradley Palermo
I'm sure Bret Hart got a kick of that out of that.
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AA RON
ah Yeah, he did.
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Bradley Palermo
You know, it's a fitting end.
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Bradley Palermo
it was it was ah ah It was a decent match for a guy that that had kind of like...
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AA RON
was a great match.
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Bradley Palermo
not that many great matches in his career. So, I mean, what more could you really want? You you actually had a ah ah good, like solid 13 minute match for once in your fucking life.
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AA RON
He wanted a lot more apparently.
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Bradley Palermo
And, uh, well, I mean, I think he wanted like, you know, the, the Ric Flair final match. Well, one of them, not, not that last one, but yeah, more, more of a send off, but, uh, he'll probably be back in AEW to do it at all in next year or something.
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AA RON
Yeah, right, exactly.
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Bradley Palermo
I don't know.
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AA RON
Who knows? It was, yeah, actually probably the best Goldberg match that I can think of since he was not in WCW anymore.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
a lot of that had to do with Gunther, I'm sure. and i mean, he got upset because they had to... It's like a national television, dude. You were on NBC.
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AA RON
You can't just go over on NBC. Like, there's something that needs to start at 10 p.m. on the dot, you know? like And then...
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah. The fucking news or whatever. Yeah.
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AA RON
Yeah, it was it was the news. And also the whole thing got released on the Internet afterwards. so I don't know what he's complaining about. It seems like. Nothing would ever be good enough for him, but I don't know.
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AA RON
That was a very good match.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
It was an OK event. I feel like the event of that weekend as a whole start to finish was probably evolution. Evolution was incredibly solid start to finish.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I think AEW, Tony Khan were mission accomplished when it came to me because after six hours of All in and I got to a Goldberg match, not even the rest of the Saturday night thing.
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AA RON
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Bradley Palermo
And by the next day, I was pretty much done. So if I watched something on Evolution, which I think it did, I think I did. It may have been like a match. So i I didn't get to see that one. But on All In, I was really happy like everyone else that...
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AA RON
hu
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Bradley Palermo
don moxley you know lost the world championship to hangman adam page and i have to say the first time adam page was champion of w or sorry of aew i didn't buy it he i didn't think his promos were strong i felt like he came out um just kind of like sappy little bitch and he he just didn't he didn't seem
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AA RON
little bit.
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Bradley Palermo
You know, he has like kind of like his Kermit the Frog sort of voice. It just seemed like someone put him there. It didn't seem like I bought him as like this like manly champion of the world. And now I do.
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AA RON
Yeah, he didn't have a lot of good feuds back then.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
it was a little bit of a lackluster title reign, and then I think, didn't Punk beat him for the AEW championship?
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, i and he kind of did some shoot stuff on punk back then and in in the middle like the the go home show.
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AA RON
I think he did.
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AA RON
yeah. yeah
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Bradley Palermo
And yeah, I had a lot of reasons that like he was rubbing me the wrong way. And it's funny because now I really um really kind of buy into this whole like, well, the Moxie ring and was awful. And even though it's it's story, it's like you made it bad enough.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
to put enough heat on Moxley to make you the real hero in the story. And for me and so many other people to buy into it, even if, even if, you know, you weren't a fan of Hangman at all, you know, i was, I was hoping it was going to be like Osprey or something, uh, before, but now it's, it seems like the moment is right.
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AA RON
Mm-hmm.
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Bradley Palermo
So, uh, and they did come back last week, uh, of course on, on dynamite, he gave another good f promo.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
So, props to hang man out on page.
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AA RON
Mm-hmm.
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AA RON
Dropped an F-bomb on Wednesday Night Dynamite, which was actually a rare occurrence.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
But yeah, All In was also very good. I think i think the second half of All In was terrific. Basically from the tag match between the Young Bucks and Swerve and Osprey to the end, with with maybe one or two exceptions.
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AA RON
per like amazing matches and agreed the main event it it's kind of funny because as aew fans i think you could probably say universally aew fans did not enjoy the john moxley death writers storyline or at least the the period of time where he had the title and
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Bradley Palermo
right
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AA RON
it ended at all in hangman beat him. Like we said, and it was probably the best moment. AEW's had like the, the, the biggest pop, the most excitement.
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AA RON
And so it's almost like when you look back on nine months that everyone hated, And then you look at what happened last weekend.
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Bradley Palermo
Right.
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AA RON
It's like, well, maybe it was all worth it. Maybe it it was bad, but maybe the destination, you know, the the the road was bumpy as shit, but the destination was where we wanted it to be.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it's
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it's like wearing really tight shoes. So you have the relief of taking them off at the end of the day. Right. But it also kind of harkened back to the Cody Rhodes Roman Reigns thing a few years ago when they, you know, beat ru Cody and made us wait a whole nother year.
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AA RON
yeah
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Bradley Palermo
And everyone's like, God damn it. This guy's had the title for way too long. Roman Reigns. um it was similar to that but i guess wrestling stories there's only ah ah few basic templates that you need to plug into and you can kind of elicit the same reactions from us the fans i think um what i i didn't mean to breeze over uh revolution uh what were the highlights evolution sorry how are the highlight what are the highlights of that
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AA RON
Yeah.
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AA RON
Evolution.
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AA RON
Honestly, dude, every match was really, really good.
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Bradley Palermo
yeah
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AA RON
I would say it's a must watch. It's probably... It might be the best WWE PLE of this year so far.
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Bradley Palermo
Wow.
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AA RON
i I would say the only one that could come close is probably a Elimination Chamber, just because both Chamber matches were really good.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
Right.
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AA RON
i think that was when we got the Sami and KO street fight, and then obviously we had the Cena heel turn, which maybe didn't turn out the way we wanted it to, but as a moment...
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Bradley Palermo
It was something.
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AA RON
It was a hell of a pay-per-view. So yeah, Evolution was pretty great. Let me see. I gotta i got to look at the matches again because I don't even remember. So opening match, triple threat, Bayley, Becky Lynch, Lyra for the Intercontinental Championship.
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AA RON
Very good match.
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Bradley Palermo
Oh,
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AA RON
JC Jane versus Jordan Grace for the NXT Women's Championship. That was also pretty good. had a four-way tag match. Raquel and Roxanne versus Charlotte and Alexa.
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AA RON
Sol Ruka and Zarya and then Asuka and Kairi Sane. Like, okay. You know, maybe that's the one that you skip. ah Tiffany Stratten versus Trish Stratus was pretty good. Jade versus Naomi in a No Holds Bard match was pretty good.
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Bradley Palermo
I saw that one.
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AA RON
Stephanie...
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
Yeah, that was good. the ah The The Battle Royal was really good with Stephanie Viqueira winning.
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Bradley Palermo
Okay.
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AA RON
And then the main event was insane.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
it was Rhea versus eo
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Bradley Palermo
Oh, I got to watch that.
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AA RON
And then it turned in and then Naomi cashed in, which you probably know.
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Bradley Palermo
Oh, shit. Yeah, no, I got to watch this.
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AA RON
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
I mean, i've I've been going through all kinds of shit the past week.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
So, um i yeah, I really do need to see that. That's interesting. I was thinking that, you know, when I was watching the Netflix boxing matches the other night, at the end, they said, you know, look at us.
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AA RON
you
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Bradley Palermo
We did an all-women's boxing event. And I thought... That's cool, but I didn't even fucking notice. like I was just watching boxing, which is weird. It's like nothing happened there that made me think, oh, these people are are less of competitors or this is not what I normally would watch when I grew up.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
as far as boxing goes, which is great. um But then i was thinking, you know, it's the same way in WWE, maybe not yet in AEW, but they've got the women's division to the point where it doesn't feel like you're watching ah special kind of match featuring women instead of just men.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
I wonder, could you just give the women, instead of having separate brands, just give the women one of the nights and have the men have the other night, have SmackDown as the female show. And, you know, I'm not saying they should or shouldn't, but I think you could. And it it wouldn't really fuck anything up at this point.
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AA RON
No, but I think it's it's an interesting discussion because i think for as many people who want there to be moments where you can highlight a certain group of people, there are probably just as many people who are like, no, no, no, we don't need to be highlighted. We need to be included and equal.
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Bradley Palermo
Right.
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AA RON
So like,
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Bradley Palermo
You don't want to be separate, but equal like the water fountains in the sixties or Jim Crow shit.
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AA RON
yeah, so like, I think that on the one hand, The women probably love Evolution because it is, you know, a spotlight on them and they get to really show out. And I think this pay-per-view was an example. They all went...
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AA RON
really hard and the crowd was really, really behind them. It felt like a black and gold NXT pay-per-view. Like that's how much, how much fun it was, how much, how good the women were, how excited the crowd was.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
So like, it's a tricky discussion, you know, should they have their own show? I mean, they, I think we all agree they certainly could, but do they like, does it, does it need to be that way?
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Bradley Palermo
Could it is all I mean. Yeah.
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AA RON
Probably not. You know, I think maybe what, would be the real win right now is like, if Raw is two and a half hours, you know, try to split up the time as evenly as you can making it, you know, obviously some weeks you'll have to give more time to certain stories than others.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
But I think to try to work more of that equality in terms of time on the shows that that's probably what I would like to see more than anything else.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, that's a good point. Should we get into the rewind?
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AA RON
Let's do it.
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Bradley Palermo
All right. Give me just one second.
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Bradley Palermo
I just realized I didn't have like specific dates and stuff written down on this one.
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Bradley Palermo
So I'm going to pull up the Wikipedia also.
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Bradley Palermo
Okay, it was the summer of 1992, June 20th to be exact, and World Championship Wrestling had their Beach Blast 92 event live in Mobile, Alabama at the Mobile mobile Civic Center.
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Bradley Palermo
The main events were Steamboat, Ricky Steamboat, Steamboat Ricky, Steamboat Willie, where Ricky Steamboat and Rick Rude, which had a, they had an Ironman match, a 30-minute Ironman match.
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Bradley Palermo
And the Steiner brothers defended their tag team championship against Terry Gordy and Steve Williams. They
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Bradley Palermo
Commentary by Jim Ross in a Hawaiian shirt, Jesse Ventura, and bloody bloody tank top of some sort. ah The attendance was about 5,000 people. and we started off with some nice 90s cartoon beachy intros and Tony Schiavone and Eric Bischoff and Bill Watts previewing the event.
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Bradley Palermo
And the first,
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AA RON
Such baby faces with Shivani and Bischoff, right? To see them so young.
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Bradley Palermo
yeah, like literally, right? Like shaven and stuff.
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AA RON
Yeah, also Bischoff was like, so tan. My goodness.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
it was like But it wasn't like spray on. It was like, he laid out in the sun and got that tan. he he committed to that.
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Bradley Palermo
You know, before I watched this, I actually watched the WCW Saturday night as I watched the go home show before I watched.
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AA RON
Oh, okay. Leading up to this.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, i was like, you know, why not watch the go-home show before the pay-per-view just like I would normally if it was ah ah a modern times.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
And it was cool. I mean, it was the same day and it was just a lot of, um you know, it was it was almost like a zero-hour show it would be today.
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AA RON
Mm-hmm.
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Bradley Palermo
They did a couple matches, but it was a lot of like Dusty Rhodes out there talking about his son's going to win and, you know, ah other fans.
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AA RON
Mm-hmm.
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Bradley Palermo
people that are affiliated with these guys that are tagging partners and stuff kind of hyping up the matches but but it was fun because i was like oh my god you know i'm gonna call i'm gonna call my cable company and get that pay-per-view you know like they were pushing the whole time but
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AA RON
Yeah. I, you know, I thought it was interesting. the the Bill Watts angle of this whole thing. So I, i know of Bill Watts.
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AA RON
I wasn't like, you know, really, i definitely wasn't watching when he was,
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Bradley Palermo
right
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AA RON
in professional wrestling. So to hear about him and see him and then read later on that he had instituted these rules from the NWA, I thought that was really fascinating.
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Bradley Palermo
Yes.
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AA RON
The number one thing that actually plays a part throughout the pay-per-view in a couple different matches is that if you jump off the top rope with a move and and you're attacking somebody, that that's a disqualification.
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AA RON
feel like feels like a weird ah ah rule, but
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AA RON
it Yeah, and and I'm assuming based off the way people talk about this period of time that nobody really liked that he did this, that he added all these rules.
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Bradley Palermo
They hated it.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah, you couldn't throw someone over the top rope. but You could hit them and result in the the inertia. could result in them falling over the top rope, but you couldn't you know toss them over that either. Some people i was reading have like, they call him like, Bill Wrestling is a Shoot Watts.
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Bradley Palermo
He wanted everything to be a shoot to look real.
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AA RON
I see.
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Bradley Palermo
And it lasted, because so I think Dusty Rhodes booked Beach Blast 92 And then Bill Watts took over the booking before it actually occurred. So this is under the Bill Watts like new rules.
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Bradley Palermo
There's also no pads on the on the sides of of the ring. It's just cement because he wants to toughen everything up.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
And Bill Watts, like tough guys, he he wasn't really into like um the high flying and the you know some of the stuff that...
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AA RON
yeah
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Bradley Palermo
you know Obviously, he wasn't into the high flighters. He didn't want people on top rope, but it hindered workers like Ricky Steamboat and guys like that because they were doing stuff that involved a lot of aerial moves.
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AA RON
Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
And I guess the fans hated it. And they had by by December of the same year, it was gone. They were back on the top ropes.
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AA RON
Oh, wow. Yeah, I mean, it certainly didn't, like, not being able to fly around played a part in the first match of the night, which was for the light heavyweight championship.
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Bradley Palermo
So...
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AA RON
It was Brian Pillman, flying Brian Pillman, who I guess couldn't do a lot of flying, against Scotty Flamingo. And I, as soon as Scotty Flamingo came out, I was like, I know who that is.
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Bradley Palermo
I
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AA RON
Wait, who is that?
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Bradley Palermo
was like I recognize this fucker yeah
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AA RON
And then I... So I looked it up and it's it's who we know more colloquially, colloquially as Raven, who is in ECW, WCW and even wwe WWE for a very short time.
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Bradley Palermo
Yes, all my notes say Raven, because once I saw the face, i was like, that's Raven.
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Bradley Palermo
But like his Scotty.
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AA RON
Yeah, what a terrible character.
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Bradley Palermo
was go to say I like is his Scotty Flamingo character. It's just, I wear a lot of pink, therefore I am a flamingo. Yeah.
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AA RON
I'm a flamingo. Yeah, nothing about him except for the fact that he was wearing pink trunks would let you know, would lead you to believe that this man's name is Scotty Flamingo.
00:16:43.07
AA RON
And the crowd didn't really care for him at all. They were obviously rooting for Brian Pillman. And, you know, for the opening match, I did really enjoy it. I thought it was pretty quick and they moved, you know, ah ah with a lot of intention and they flew around as much as they could.
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Bradley Palermo
That's good.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah. And, you know, it might and went by fast, but it wasn't a short match. You know, it was it was it was over 17 minutes long and, you know, a ton of classic holds and arm drags, that kind of
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AA RON
No.
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Bradley Palermo
um You know, there were they were outside the ring a bit on that cement, which I thought was kind of interesting and did look kind of dangerous.
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Bradley Palermo
We learned at that point about, you know, some of the rules we before mentioned. And Flamingo surprisingly won, even though Pillman dominated that whole fucking thing.
00:17:23.87
AA RON
How did, oh, that's right. yeah Flamingo won because what he was on the out. So outside of the ring, little bit different, certainly different than most setups in current day wrestling.
00:17:36.04
AA RON
There was a ramp that was, that was basically absolutely perfectly level with the apron of the ring.
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Bradley Palermo
Didn't AEW do that briefly a few years ago?
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AA RON
that's, They've done it a little bit. Yeah.
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Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
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AA RON
AEW does it on and off, but they're pretty much the only modern day promotion that I've seen do it in recent memory.
00:17:48.09
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:17:52.77
Bradley Palermo
Right.
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AA RON
So the finish was a, was like a part of that. So I remember Flamingo was out on that little ramp and Brian Pillman tried to do a dive and Flamingo got out of the way and Pillman's, you know, quote unquote, smacked his head on the, on the stage.
00:18:08.60
AA RON
And then, Scotty hit him with some sort of knee and then then he beat him with a pin.
00:18:12.81
Bradley Palermo
Did you notice that crowd popped when Raven's tights slipped? You can see a little bit of his ass.
00:18:17.26
AA RON
His butt, yeah, the girls like that.
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Bradley Palermo
and And, you know, the girls were screaming. And I was thinking, you know, this is back. yeah Also, if you look at the audience in the front row or whatever, there's there's like an old lady eating like's like an old lady eating nachos, it's like screaming at everyone.
00:18:26.43
AA RON
The old ladies.
00:18:31.33
Bradley Palermo
There's like a dad with a kid sitting on his.
00:18:31.82
AA RON
There was like a a good amount of older folks in the like first few rows.
00:18:36.41
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. But there's like clearly like, you know, young ladies there. there's What I'm saying is it's a diverse family crowd. And there's actually women there who like scream when a guy does something that's like, quote unquote, sexy.
00:18:43.14
AA RON
Yeah.
00:18:48.64
AA RON
Mm hmm.
00:18:48.54
Bradley Palermo
That's now, you know, it's it's a bunch of 40 year old like fat guys. It's not really ah ah white fat guys. It's not really that diverse. Yeah. you know it's like this is like kind of like the the like the town square came out to the wrestling match which i just thought it was interesting a time when wrestling was perhaps a little bit more like mainstream you know
00:19:06.51
AA RON
Well, it, it, but it wasn't, that's what's interesting. Like it wasn't mainstream, but it was more widely accepted as like, family entertainment, you know, like you, I guess like you don't see as many 70 or, or like, like there were, there were legitimately like five or six people that were, that had to be in their seventies in the front of the crowd.
00:19:18.64
Bradley Palermo
yeah
00:19:30.10
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:19:30.80
AA RON
And you don't see that in modern day wrestling anymore. The, the, like the oldest people get, I would say is probably like 50s or 60s, at least what I see generally when I go to shows.
00:19:39.14
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:19:42.83
AA RON
But back then it was like, yeah, you had kids yeah like ages eight to 80. And now it's more like six to
00:19:47.55
Bradley Palermo
Right.
00:19:50.66
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, and you can tell, like, some of these old ladies and stuff, like, they know what's going on. You know, they they're they they know the rules. Like, they know what they're yeah they're yelling with intent. There's something they want the wrestlers to do. It's not just kind of like, oh, my God.
00:20:03.54
Bradley Palermo
there's You know, it's it's it's kind of a cool little piece of
00:20:07.03
AA RON
Yeah, like there was a there's a lady like shaking her finger like, nope, you're not going to win that way or something, you know, like.
00:20:12.26
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. And there's a lot of people, it's, you know, it's Mobile, Alabama.
00:20:13.42
AA RON
I enjoyed it.
00:20:15.31
Bradley Palermo
So there's guys that are just there in their overalls and stuff, like no shirt underneath and stuff. Like you really do get a feel for, uh, the, who the audience was. And I think also, you know, they don't do a lot of work with the lighting and dimming the back and everything like, like modern shows.
00:20:28.07
AA RON
Yeah, it was very.
00:20:29.10
Bradley Palermo
So you can see everybody.
00:20:30.68
AA RON
very low, low rent production, I guess you could say, like not really.
00:20:36.08
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:36.47
AA RON
And I remember the first shot of it where we were seeing the crowd. I was like, I can't sound like I'm squinting because I couldn't see. It was so dark.
00:20:43.41
Bradley Palermo
yeah yeah it's a good feel though i don't know it's something it just i guess it just has a retro feel that i appreciate but then we got on to this bikini contest segment one which has been going it's a thread throughout the show it's it's hosted by johnny b bad and his full little richard cosplay that we've talked about before the feather boa the sequence jacket
00:20:44.05
AA RON
It's like, well, here's the crowd shot. And I'm like, I don't see it.
00:21:04.21
AA RON
Yes, but we haven't seen him. We've only seen him as marvelous Mark Marrow, I think.
00:21:08.96
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, so he's very flamboyant. He's very, he's almost like, like RuPaul drag queen type environment.
00:21:13.88
AA RON
Mm hmm.
00:21:15.79
Bradley Palermo
Jesse Ventura makes several jokes about how he's doing bikini contests, but he clearly doesn't like girls. That's how he says it.
00:21:21.84
AA RON
Yep.
00:21:22.45
AA RON
Yep.
00:21:27.54
AA RON
I guess so. Yeah. I mean, this is the, can we just say that this, yeah, this is a story thread that I just rolled my eyes at repeatedly because like, first of all, Medusa, every time she comes, so there, I guess we can explain that there's three rounds to this.
00:21:36.36
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:21:46.04
AA RON
There's like a evening gown, the swimsuit and the bikini round. So,
00:21:50.01
Bradley Palermo
Yes, there was.
00:21:51.16
AA RON
It's Medusa who is a WCW wrestler versus Missy Hyatt. Was Missy Hyatt a wrestler too? Honestly, I don't remember.
00:21:57.78
Bradley Palermo
I'm not sure.
00:21:58.01
AA RON
Yeah,
00:21:58.31
Bradley Palermo
I mean, I heard that name a million times. I don't know what exactly we've seen her on, but
00:22:02.40
AA RON
yeah no, she was. She was. I guess, yeah, i I don't really remember Missy Hyatt, but I remember Medusa. And I just remember, i mean, Medusa was the heel, but she looked so unhappy.
00:22:12.86
Bradley Palermo
Oh, yeah.
00:22:13.02
AA RON
Every time she had to come out, she she was like, I fucking hate this place.
00:22:13.100
Bradley Palermo
Just grumpy-faced. Yeah.
00:22:16.74
AA RON
well Get me out of here.
00:22:17.16
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, she's the heel, but yeah, you're right. seemed legitimately unhappy. Like, what the fuck? And the the contest was real stupid. and they They walk out of like a little beach tent, like they' a little hideaway to change that's like only the size of them.
00:22:31.77
Bradley Palermo
And then they come out first in formal wear. So Medusa's in like a full-on fucking wedding dress.
00:22:36.98
AA RON
Evening gown.
00:22:36.97
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:22:37.98
AA RON
Yeah.
00:22:38.28
Bradley Palermo
Well, she's got like a fucking bouquet to throw like in the veil and stuff. It's like, what the fuck?
00:22:43.35
AA RON
Oh, that's right.
00:22:44.11
AA RON
That's right. Yeah.
00:22:44.33
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah. But um Missy Hyatt was in like a regular evening gown. But um so the fans, they're trying to push this like, you know, 1-900 number like they like they always are.
00:22:52.10
AA RON
The number we're always pushing it
00:22:55.28
Bradley Palermo
But yes, exactly.
00:22:57.84
AA RON
twice.
00:22:57.86
Bradley Palermo
Did you press it again?
00:22:59.21
AA RON
no
00:23:00.27
Bradley Palermo
it stock
00:23:05.88
Bradley Palermo
so button I think the button got stuck down or something. I'm like, is that you?
00:23:08.65
AA RON
I love it.
00:23:09.73
Bradley Palermo
had to scrape the gum out of the edges there. Yeah, so they have their 1-900 number. and you know missy hyatt's getting all the pops but throughout the show they're showing like obviously a work number that's like yeah missy hyatt's getting her ass kicked missy hyatt's about to cinch it but uh she's seeing more votes yeah whatever and and they're trying to get you to call and vote for missy hyatt and thinking that she's losing when obviously people are just calling and paying their 199 a minute for missy anyways
00:23:27.12
AA RON
to 49.
00:23:39.22
Bradley Palermo
And they don't even give you the fucking results at the end. They tell you you got to wait till like Wednesday or Tuesday or Monday, whatever.
00:23:42.05
AA RON
Yeah, they tell you you have to to watch tomorrow. Yeah.
00:23:46.56
Bradley Palermo
And then we get into our second match, which is Ron Simmons versus Terry Taylor, who's under the gimmick, the tailor-made man at this point.
00:23:55.26
AA RON
Oh, God, yeah.
00:23:56.42
Bradley Palermo
Ron Simmons looks incredible at this point. He is so incredible.
00:23:59.64
AA RON
He's about to be the champ in a few months, I think.
00:24:02.15
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I read that. Yeah, he's huge fucking muscles. um Just looks like the scariest motherfucker. I also think like other WCW things we've watched, um I'd be remiss to not mention that Ron Simmons is the only black guy on this entire huge fucking card, which I think is ridiculous that at all your wrestlers are the same race.
00:24:19.11
AA RON
Yeah. Oh, well, we wait. That's not true because there was...
00:24:23.02
Bradley Palermo
Oh, is it not true?
00:24:24.13
AA RON
Well, the the dark match that we did not get to see had Junkyard Dog in it.
00:24:28.39
Bradley Palermo
Oh, shit. Well, I didn't see that. But yeah, it's still it' still crazy to me.
00:24:31.01
AA RON
Yeah.
00:24:32.44
Bradley Palermo
I'm like, are there like, are other sports like this at this time? Are you watching football and there's like only one black guy? like like
00:24:41.00
AA RON
Probably not.
00:24:41.00
Bradley Palermo
Or is it just wrestling that this has a weird thing?
00:24:43.21
AA RON
No, it's just wrestling that that was racist for too many years.
00:24:43.16
Bradley Palermo
I don't know. But
00:24:47.46
Bradley Palermo
a lot of years. And then there's, we see Bill Alfonso as a referee, which I think, this is this the first time we've seen him as a referee together?
00:24:52.11
AA RON
Yes, we did.
00:24:55.23
AA RON
no. I mean, we saw, no, no. I think he was, he was reffing something else. Cause we saw him in ECW, obviously
00:25:00.55
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. We might have seen him recently and another match, but it's always great to see him after watching him in ECW.
00:25:04.99
AA RON
in something else.
00:25:07.73
AA RON
Yeah.
00:25:07.94
Bradley Palermo
you know Seeing him all buttoned up because he's such a crazy motherfucker once he gets to ECW.
00:25:08.98
AA RON
Be normal.
00:25:12.43
AA RON
Yeah.
00:25:13.71
Bradley Palermo
It's like when the fucking asylum takes over the prison ECW.
00:25:13.86
AA RON
Yeah. I,
00:25:18.28
AA RON
I enjoyed seeing Terry Taylor because i hear about him a lot now that we get to be a part of so much behind the scenes WWE discussion. Terry Taylor is an agent backstage and I feel like I've heard his name mentioned a lot lately from like people in NXT or on that show LFG.
00:25:41.66
AA RON
He's just like he helps people put matches together and stuff.
00:25:43.04
Bradley Palermo
Oh, cool
00:25:46.67
Bradley Palermo
So Simmons won quickly and he cut a solid baby face promo on hard work. And talked about like, no matter what color you are or where you come from, you can you can be champion I will be champion all that stuff.
00:25:57.26
AA RON
Buff.
00:25:58.14
Bradley Palermo
And, you know, it was nice and he would be champion that same summer. So as you've already mentioned, so that was that was cool. It was quick, was four minutes. And then we get onto Greg the Hammer Valentine versus Marcus Bagwell, or as we know him better,
00:26:11.27
Bradley Palermo
Buff Bagwell.
00:26:12.00
AA RON
but
00:26:12.48
Bradley Palermo
You know, I didn't really watch this match because I got caught up in Buff Bagwell looking him up.
00:26:12.71
AA RON
Yeah.
00:26:18.40
Bradley Palermo
I watched a little bit, but Buff Bagwell this week lost his his legs. he was His legs were amputated above the knees after a drunk driving incident that he caused, I guess, a few years ago.
00:26:23.02
AA RON
yeah no.
00:26:31.28
Bradley Palermo
so that's, that's a bummer. I know also, but also he just has an interesting life. He worked for, uh, Cowboys for Angels, the, uh, famous male escort, uh,
00:26:40.53
Bradley Palermo
group out here in Los Angeles that they made a TV show called gigolos about and he was on TV as a gigolo.
00:26:44.73
AA RON
oh
00:26:46.59
Bradley Palermo
believe he was married at the time and she didn't know that he was not only working as an escort, but also that he was on fucking TV about it.
00:26:51.80
AA RON
Oh boy. Oh boy.
00:26:54.52
Bradley Palermo
I don't know, uh, some of this stuff. Yeah. It's like, I looked it up. Some of it, I was there a ah dark side of the ring on him that I may have seen. I'm not sure.
00:27:01.98
AA RON
I don't think so, but he, I remember I've seen him recently because of DDP.
00:27:09.88
AA RON
I think he was one of the people that DDP was helping sort of get back on their feet.
00:27:10.09
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:27:13.06
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. I mean, I feel bad for the guy.
00:27:14.17
AA RON
and
00:27:15.52
Bradley Palermo
Obviously he lost his legs and in his amputations were after 40 plus surgeries.
00:27:17.78
AA RON
Yeah.
00:27:20.20
Bradley Palermo
So this guy's been through a lot and, and yeah, I mean, he was the drunk driver in that incident, but I think lots of people have, you know, been behind the wheel when they shouldn't have, and you never want that kind of outcome for anybody.
00:27:30.52
Bradley Palermo
So.
00:27:31.05
AA RON
I think it's just one leg, by the way, not both.
00:27:33.98
Bradley Palermo
Oh, really?
00:27:34.93
AA RON
Yeah, just one one above the knee amputation.
00:27:35.88
Bradley Palermo
Oh. Oh, wow. Well, thanks for clarifying that before I go spreading the wrong shit.
00:27:42.32
AA RON
i also said something last episode that was completely wrong, and now I forgot what it was. I was going to try and and fix it, but apologize I apologize.
00:27:46.62
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. There's always...
00:27:51.08
AA RON
I may say things that are completely incorrect from time to time.
00:27:53.34
Bradley Palermo
There are, yeah, there's plenty of times where I'm editing and I'm like, what am I talking about? Like, I know for a fact that is not correct. It's just the way it comes out is incorrect.
00:28:00.91
AA RON
Whoops.
00:28:02.32
Bradley Palermo
You know, it's, you know what you meant to say, but, but yeah, this was a quick win for Greg Valentine and yeah.
00:28:02.95
AA RON
Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:07.05
AA RON
Oh, I remember what it was now. I remember what it was and I want to clarify.
00:28:08.99
Bradley Palermo
Oh,
00:28:11.24
AA RON
Dean Malenko, I said he had never worked in WWF as an agent and I was wrong. he He was an agent in WWF and he also wrestled there very briefly.
00:28:17.08
Bradley Palermo
oh
00:28:20.48
Bradley Palermo
Oh, wow. Good to know. Good to know. um Yeah, we'll put that, we'll have like a little letters from the editor file take and accept corrections.
00:28:29.98
AA RON
I will say the the Bagwell Valentine match. This was the first one that really grabbed my attention in a way that the the previous two hadn't. it And I think it was because of Greg Valentine.
00:28:42.05
AA RON
I don't know if I've seen a lot of Greg Valentine matches before.
00:28:42.06
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:28:44.65
AA RON
Just think just the dog collar match with with Piper. I think that's think that's the one.
00:28:48.27
Bradley Palermo
Oh yeah. Cool.
00:28:50.55
AA RON
But i I think so.
00:28:51.20
Bradley Palermo
Piper in Portland.
00:28:53.07
AA RON
I think that's what that is.
00:28:53.45
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:28:54.83
AA RON
But I really liked Greg Valentine, just the way he worked. his pace. I could tell that Bagwell was new to wrestling and that Valentine was sort of leading him along, but yeah, I thought Greg Valentine was like fantastic and he was, you know, up in his years by this point, but still got pops.
00:29:02.36
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. yeah
00:29:13.38
AA RON
Like people were excited about the figure four.
00:29:16.19
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:29:16.84
AA RON
it was, ah ah it was cool. I, for only having seen a few Greg Valentine matches, i really enjoyed getting to see more.
00:29:24.82
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. For being a little bit older than you, I, I feel like Greg Valentine, was in everything at a certain period of time where even when was starting and like, um, certainly like WCW stuff, I remember us having like the figures and stuff. It was just kind of, yeah, not quite the sensation of Hulk Hogan, but kind of that look and way better of a worker.
00:29:44.37
Bradley Palermo
I mean, now I know that, but,
00:29:44.86
AA RON
Yeah. Yeah. And then we got to the real good match, or at least one of the the matches that this pay-per-view is known for, and that was Cactus Jack against Sting in a Falls Count Anywhere match. And...
00:29:57.91
AA RON
i We love Mick. I love seeing Mick fully.
00:30:01.29
Bradley Palermo
Yes.
00:30:01.78
AA RON
This was in a very different presentation for Cactus Jack because they sort of bill him as a hitman that I guess Vader or whoever, maybe maybe it was Paul, Paul Heyman, Polly Dangerously hired to take care of Sting to sort of soften him up for Vader.
00:30:22.00
Bradley Palermo
Right, yeah, he's kind of he's kind of one of, it's funny, right, that these kind of things are still happening, that Paul Heyman still has his little hitmen, his little, like, and soldiers.
00:30:30.94
AA RON
Mm hmm.
00:30:30.98
Bradley Palermo
They're not a little, but they're, you know, they're kind of low on the pole of like, the championship title thing. This thing was obviously, well, Sting was a world champion at this point, but ah Cactus Jack didn't have an opportunity at the title of this match. This was straight up just
00:30:43.84
AA RON
I thought that was a little strange too, right?
00:30:46.08
AA RON
Like, yeah, like in the middle of the of the show, i guess it was really all setting up the Great American Bash, which
00:30:46.41
Bradley Palermo
non-title match, yeah.
00:30:55.71
AA RON
Yeah, it was only like a month later. So very interesting choice, like to have your champion in non-title match that as far as like, well, so you watch the go home.
00:31:11.30
Bradley Palermo
They probably did.
00:31:05.34
AA RON
Did they like, did they talk about the whole Cactus Jack being hired thing at all?
00:31:11.94
Bradley Palermo
I don't remember now. It's like... I think there was a lot about like, why would a champion take on this kind of situation? it was like, well, he wants to show that he'll take on anything at any time.
00:31:22.07
Bradley Palermo
But that yeah, there was the angle that he was supposed to knock him out before the big title match that was coming up. So yeah, I got, I got that information.
00:31:29.40
AA RON
Okay. Yeah.
00:31:30.21
Bradley Palermo
and, uh,
00:31:30.75
AA RON
Because without that information, I was like, this is great match, but like, why is it happening? You know?
00:31:35.78
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, I think it was showing his intestinal fortitude that he would, which it's funny. It's a term they use in this in this show. Again, I don't know if you heard it but it got slipped in there.
00:31:44.93
AA RON
Again. Yeah, no, they did. It's a, it's a, I think, I think the body, I think Jesse Ventura likes that.
00:31:50.65
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, he did it. So the
00:31:52.27
AA RON
Yeah. Yeah. It's intestinal fortitude there, Yeah.
00:31:55.95
Bradley Palermo
The bra began in on the ramp in the crowd. It ah you know, what you could expect. Tons of chair shots, action all over. They said falls can happen anywhere in on the Gulf Coast.
00:32:07.16
AA RON
On the Gulf Coast, yeah.
00:32:07.07
Bradley Palermo
So I was thinking they were going outside, but they never made it outside of the arena.
00:32:11.06
AA RON
They did not. They did not.
00:32:11.99
Bradley Palermo
i
00:32:12.27
AA RON
this Yeah, it felt like a ah ah real Foley match, right?
00:32:12.69
Bradley Palermo
Anyway.
00:32:15.06
AA RON
Like...
00:32:15.64
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:32:16.38
AA RON
when you wouldn't really expect one in 1992 in WCW, like he did his elbow onto the floor and took a bunch of crazy, back body drops over the, over the railing.
00:32:29.01
AA RON
Typical Foley.
00:32:28.92
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it was it was a lot for back then.
00:32:29.82
AA RON
Yeah.
00:32:31.65
Bradley Palermo
It was a different kind of match. And it was, you know, seeing Foley like that much of a heel was, he did a good job with it. He's he's sitting there. if you didn't know who this guy was and and think of him as kind of the baby face we think of him now with his teeth fucking missing and his crazy ass hair on his face, like I see how he would have been pretty pretty terrifying, especially for the children.
00:32:43.09
AA RON
Yeah.
00:32:51.05
Bradley Palermo
But it it was a quick match.
00:32:51.31
AA RON
Yeah.
00:32:52.36
Bradley Palermo
I mean, it was it was about 10 minutes long. I think, what does say here? 11.25. yeah, just over 10 minutes long.
00:32:57.78
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:32:58.60
Bradley Palermo
And it was um it was in and it was out. And it was action-packed. And
00:33:03.39
AA RON
The crowd was very much into this one, very much behind Sting.
00:33:03.36
Bradley Palermo
and
00:33:08.71
AA RON
You could tell pretty much anything he did.
00:33:08.79
Bradley Palermo
and staying Sting won, right? Yeah.
00:33:11.39
AA RON
He did, yeah, he did.
00:33:12.08
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, of course.
00:33:12.63
AA RON
i don't remember what he did to to beat him, but he it was a pin somewhere. they
00:33:18.06
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:33:18.80
AA RON
i noticed that when they started fighting in the crowd, it was a pretty short amount of time that they were in the crowd, but the crowd was like... super raucous like true like the the security was really trying to hold them back in a way that like doesn't really happen today so much and and it's not like they didn't fight in the crowd back in the day of course they did it's just like everyone was like oh my god people were like trying to get in and touch them and yelling shit
00:33:27.86
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:33:32.96
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:33:42.91
Bradley Palermo
well But on the same on the same token, I did notice like um when the action would get hot on the side of the ring, kids would like run up to the railings.
00:33:53.47
Bradley Palermo
And now there's like, I mean, if you're sitting on the floor in the front, there's a security guy that's like right there in the aisle.
00:33:59.60
AA RON
Yeah.
00:33:59.66
Bradley Palermo
If you try to get up and get into the aisle, you're fucked.
00:33:59.89
AA RON
And there's feet.
00:34:02.13
Bradley Palermo
And they were letting people like run up to the air.
00:34:02.26
AA RON
Mm hmm. Mm
00:34:04.01
Bradley Palermo
So there was a little bit more like looseness. with sort of how people you know they probably had ga i don't know it's probably just like we got here first so we're sitting here i don't know but
00:34:06.52
AA RON
hmm.
00:34:12.38
AA RON
Yeah, yeah, could definitely could be i a lot looser, but then also like there's just sort of an energy that was always kind of there. And a lot of it, I think, again, mr Audio Guy over here, I think a lot of it has to do with how they recorded it. You know, the the type of microphone placement that they had in a place like this. And during this time, there's only so much that you can do. But like you did feel the crowd a lot of the time and especially in this match. And even though it was 10, 11 minutes, like.
00:34:40.89
AA RON
The crowd really enjoyed it.
00:34:42.47
Bradley Palermo
And then we get into the other big match on this one, which was the Ironman challenge. It's a 30 minute Ironman match. I'm used to seeing more, maybe more like 60 minute Ironman matches modern time, but it's Rick Rude.
00:34:53.29
Bradley Palermo
He's the U S champion versus Ricky steamboat, Ricky steamboat. His real name is Richard blood. And in the seventies, more than once he was, he was billed as dick blood.
00:35:02.90
Bradley Palermo
That's that is a true thing.
00:35:03.18
AA RON
Of course he was.
00:35:04.63
Bradley Palermo
So I've thought, you know, How appropriate. We have Dick Rude versus Dick Blood in a 30-minute time limit. Rude comes out, trashes the crowd, calls them fat, ugly, beach-loving bozos. Makes sure that he's got all the heat he needs for this one.
00:35:21.54
Bradley Palermo
Steamboat is such a baby face. you know I believe him. you know He just seems like such a good fucking guy through the years.
00:35:27.80
AA RON
Yeah.
00:35:29.04
Bradley Palermo
But to to further hammer that that message in there, he comes out with his fucking wife and his kids. um Jesse, the body.
00:35:35.83
AA RON
In his little little dragon outfit.
00:35:38.33
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, Jesse says this is disgusting. When he sees him with his kid and his wife, which I thought was hilarious.
00:35:47.54
AA RON
i love I love Jesse Ventura.
00:35:50.41
AA RON
is He's so inappropriate.
00:35:52.56
Bradley Palermo
Oh, this is disgusting.
00:35:53.10
AA RON
It's fantastic.
00:35:55.96
Bradley Palermo
um The commentary referenced Dan Quayle's potato spelling gaffe, which I and don't know how they worked that in. But if you forgot that we were in 1992 and Bill Clinton was on the on the campaign trail to become president six months later, that's where we were in time.
00:36:03.34
AA RON
I love that.
00:36:12.35
Bradley Palermo
Bill Clinton.
00:36:12.52
AA RON
Dan Quayle didn't know how to spell potato. Absolutely.
00:36:15.89
Bradley Palermo
P-O-T-A-T-O-E.
00:36:23.57
Bradley Palermo
So it's, you know, yeah, it's whoever gets, if you if you don't know what Ironman matches, it's whoever scores the most pinfalls in a match. So normally you get one pinfall. It's over this time you go until the time's up, which made it really feel like a legitimate sport contest in a way because you're sitting there.
00:36:39.11
AA RON
absolutely
00:36:40.24
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Rick Rude gets like the first. Two falls and then even the third one, but it's oh wait, i think that I think the first.
00:36:47.58
AA RON
Oh yeah. Yeah. I remember what happened. He got, he got two falls really quickly and then he decides he's going to do something from the top rope and he does like a top rope knee drop or something.
00:36:51.81
Bradley Palermo
hey
00:36:56.22
Bradley Palermo
Hop rope.
00:37:00.04
AA RON
So then he gets disqualified. So then it's two one and then he does something else and then it becomes three one. And I'm like, Whoa.
00:37:06.91
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, they were like, well, it's like good that he went off the top rope because he he quickly got that point back by injuring the shit out of Steamboat.
00:37:12.35
AA RON
yeah
00:37:14.26
Bradley Palermo
But, I mean, was...
00:37:15.55
AA RON
That's pretty, you know, pretty classic. That was like what MJF did against Danielson in his Ironman match. If you remember, he used something, he like did a low blow or did something super illegal right in front of the ref and he got disqualified.
00:37:28.87
AA RON
But then because he did that, he pinned him and then got a fall immediately.
00:37:43.08
Bradley Palermo
good.
00:37:38.58
AA RON
It's a, it's a good match.
00:37:43.64
Bradley Palermo
Um, there was a lot of back and forth, a lot of just, I just had a story to it but,
00:37:48.06
AA RON
Yeah. Ricky was fighting from underneath pretty much the entire match fighting from a three, one deficit. you know, I didn't love the fact that the clock, the countdown clock was always on the screen.
00:38:00.93
AA RON
Like, especially in the beginning, like the first five, 10 minutes, I was like, i don't really like, I don't want to see how much time has elapsed.
00:38:00.84
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:38:08.16
AA RON
I just want to focus on the match. And eventually I got there, but it was, it was a little distracting.
00:38:14.95
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. It's like you could have it flash up at certain times and then fade in. So maybe like at 10 minutes you have it fade out, you know, and then, and then you kind of, kind of dissolve back in at five minutes and fade out, you know?
00:38:26.88
AA RON
Yeah, you know, the other interesting thing about this whole entire pay-per-view is I could hear them counting down how much time had passed in a match and how much was left.
00:38:37.22
AA RON
on every match, which I thought was some, which is definitely something we don't hear a lot.
00:38:40.06
Bradley Palermo
Oh, yeah.
00:38:42.86
AA RON
And I know AEW has been criticized for in the past that when they have time limit draws, that's the only time you hear Justin Roberts be like 10 minutes have elapsed 20 minutes.
00:38:53.99
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:38:54.22
AA RON
And every match I heard it in this pay-per-view, every single match.
00:38:58.51
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, that's true. i kind of like it being announced because it feels like a public sporting event, but also kind of, as someone who
00:39:04.66
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:39:07.68
Bradley Palermo
just pays a lot of attention to wrestling is always wondering how things work. I'm kind of like, Oh, that is that kind of just like giving your signal to the wrestlers? Like, you know, giving them their cue.
00:39:17.07
Bradley Palermo
I don't know.
00:39:17.47
AA RON
Mm hmm.
00:39:18.62
Bradley Palermo
Now I think the refs, I think the refs have the in-ears now. So they, they can just say like, all right, you've got five minutes left here.
00:39:25.05
AA RON
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:26.13
Bradley Palermo
I need to, whatever. I would imagine.
00:39:27.82
AA RON
Yeah, but but for the purposes of like convincing you that it's legitimate, I think that totally works.
00:39:27.80
Bradley Palermo
I mean, I don't i don't know any of these.
00:39:33.43
AA RON
And especially when you end up going to time limit draws, the fact that you've done that in every other match and and do it in the one that ends in a draw adds legitimacy to the draw and then doesn't get you expecting it, which I think is nice.
00:39:44.88
Bradley Palermo
Right.
00:39:48.29
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah. but That's the thing. AEW kind of spoils it for you. Yeah.
00:39:53.33
AA RON
Sometimes, yeah, I mean, but.
00:39:54.16
Bradley Palermo
Sometimes. But...
00:39:55.72
Bradley Palermo
Steamboat won this one four to three. He came back from underneath kind of like, like any ah sports movie at the end when the underdog team has to pull out the last pull through at the last second, you know, the basketball players, Teen Wolf or anything.
00:40:08.67
AA RON
Yep.
00:40:10.58
Bradley Palermo
and like, Oh, it's 70 to 71. What are we going to
00:40:13.21
AA RON
Miracle. That's what I always think of the 1980s hockey team.
00:40:15.24
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
00:40:18.64
Bradley Palermo
Yes.
00:40:19.25
AA RON
But a good match.
00:40:19.18
Bradley Palermo
And then.
00:40:19.77
AA RON
Yeah. he He, I mean, he, he got that last fall. Like, I think there were like 10 seconds left or something.
00:40:25.16
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:40:25.30
AA RON
Like it was real close.
00:40:25.60
Bradley Palermo
Pretty awesome. Yeah.
00:40:27.63
AA RON
Or no, it was like it was like a minute or 30 seconds and Rick Rude just kept doing stuff to him and he couldn't get him so to to pin.
00:40:27.54
Bradley Palermo
It's cool. Yeah.
00:40:34.32
Bradley Palermo
yeah
00:40:36.26
AA RON
He couldn't successfully pin him. it It was a good ending. I enjoyed the match.
00:40:40.49
Bradley Palermo
And then we got what everyone was really waiting for. The bikini contest segment two, where they're in
00:40:44.97
AA RON
Yeah.
00:40:45.91
Bradley Palermo
Johnny B. Badd says, she's a motorcycle, baby. I'd like to ride with her when he sees Medusa. So lots of ogling and grunting and um more creepy commentary is what I'm trying to say.
00:40:58.10
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:40:58.34
AA RON
totally necessary stuff that's the thing is like the the crowd like we we talked about the crowd earlier right like a very broad selection of ages and genders whatever what made them think that like a family audience would be interested in in this specifically like that's what i don't understand it's not like
00:41:00.08
Bradley Palermo
yeah And,
00:41:20.47
AA RON
1997 where it's all dudes and you're like, yeah, I don't know.
00:41:22.86
Bradley Palermo
Two words, baby. Sex sales.
00:41:25.92
AA RON
I just, I think for night, like it was a strange choice for 1992. I could see it in the attitude era, like the Jerry Springer era or the girls gone wild, you know, like all that stuff was happening in the late nineties, but just a strange, strange thing to include in then in 1992.
00:41:32.17
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Right.
00:41:37.84
Bradley Palermo
I agree.
00:41:40.67
Bradley Palermo
They successfully alienated all those all those ladies and stuff by doing shit like that.
00:41:41.39
AA RON
Probably.
00:41:45.50
AA RON
probably
00:41:45.49
Bradley Palermo
I mean, this was the beginning of the end, probably. I mean, it wasn't very... Once they got into crotch chops and fucking, you know, whatever...
00:41:53.31
AA RON
They had lost him by that point.
00:41:54.92
Bradley Palermo
bra and panty matches they were probably totally gone yeah but this was like the little precursor and that's i love this era you know because it does have the classic wrestling but it has a little bit of production and we do see where wrestling is heading as we watch but it's not totally all fucked up in like mountain dew yet you know it still has a little it's not totally ah ah extreme sports it still has a little bit of that old school in there so
00:41:57.71
AA RON
Yeah.
00:42:13.38
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:42:18.77
Bradley Palermo
I mean, the bikini contest could have been thrown away for sure. I mean, already mentioned it, but after at the end, they they still put on the screen that Medusa's winning. You better call and give us your parents' money and pick up the phone and all that stuff.
00:42:30.57
Bradley Palermo
And then we get into a six-man tag team match. i don't know, for some reason, it was really hard for me to follow, like, who the fuck was on whose team? I kept trying to write it down, and I was like, I guess because all these guys look like they could be.
00:42:42.38
AA RON
They were all white, all blonde, but it was a good match.
00:42:43.85
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, they all look the same, yeah. But it was...
00:42:47.42
AA RON
You know, it was Dustin Rhodes, son of Dusty, brother of Cody, Barry Windham and Nikita Koloff. They were facing Arne Anderson, stunning Steve Austin and Bobby Eden.
00:42:58.04
Bradley Palermo
I don't see...
00:42:58.58
AA RON
So like a lot of good names in that match, a lot of famous, famous names in that match.
00:43:04.49
Bradley Palermo
And who was Paul E. working for? Who was Paul?
00:43:07.37
AA RON
That was Arne, Steve, and Bobby Eaton.
00:43:07.27
Bradley Palermo
Paul?
00:43:10.51
AA RON
They were the dangerous alliance.
00:43:12.55
Bradley Palermo
Okay, so they were the heels then, yes.
00:43:15.13
AA RON
Yeah, Arne Anderson, Steve Austin, Bobby Eaton were the heels, yeah.
00:43:16.48
Bradley Palermo
Right. Okay. Yeah. it's It's cool to see Steve Austin play this totally different role.
00:43:22.45
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:43:22.41
Bradley Palermo
You know, I mean, just knowing what he's about to become. There's no way he knew what he was about to become at this point, right?
00:43:27.69
AA RON
Yeah. Yeah. It's like five years before he even starts, you know, really being stone cold.
00:43:28.74
Bradley Palermo
Wow.
00:43:33.93
AA RON
So yeah, this is before a lot of things. I mean, Paul is Paul. He dangerously is still in the WCW. He hasn't left to go make ECW what it, what it was.
00:43:43.77
AA RON
And we know that Steve Austin goes over there with him and Scotty Flamingo other people.
00:43:44.25
Bradley Palermo
Right.
00:43:47.72
Bradley Palermo
you You can see, yeah, you can see like Paul, he was an interesting guy. I mean, I know his personas that he's always scheming, but in real life, know, he was in there as a manager, but he was building, you know, a famous company that he was in there scouting while he was working, you know, like he brought a lot of those guys to come with him.
00:44:05.23
AA RON
hundred
00:44:07.80
Bradley Palermo
And, um and he was working angles that he still makes money off of working today. So
00:44:12.58
AA RON
Yeah.
00:44:12.64
Bradley Palermo
see It's kind of cool, man.
00:44:14.69
AA RON
Smart guy.
00:44:14.71
Bradley Palermo
Jesse Ventura is this at peak hilarity. I didn't write down what he said, but man, I guess this guy was cracking me up during this match as well because I felt like, yeah.
00:44:25.10
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:44:25.94
Bradley Palermo
But so the match ended with a disqualification from a superplex off the top rope. Who won that one though?
00:44:32.18
AA RON
The good guys, Dustin, Barry Windham, and Nikita Koloff.
00:44:35.50
Bradley Palermo
Okay, so so yeah, there's that fucking rule thing again. That That ah damn NWA rule that made it in.
00:44:42.16
AA RON
Yeah, really just really didn't help.
00:44:45.46
AA RON
i the I mean, removing the mats around the ring. Okay. Yeah. I mean, i probably not good overall because, you know, for the health of your wrestlers, but did make all of the outside stuff look super intense.
00:44:56.88
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, it did.
00:44:57.10
AA RON
The coming off the top rope being a disqualification, incredibly stupid.
00:44:57.51
Bradley Palermo
Oh, God. Yeah, I mean, I know in like amateur wrestling, you you know you can't lift someone up in the air over your shoulders or whatever.
00:45:10.74
Bradley Palermo
theres Because obviously if someone goes up, they can break their neck. But wrestling, we're way beyond that.
00:45:14.14
AA RON
Yeah.
00:45:15.60
Bradley Palermo
You can throw them off the second rope. You know you can jump off the ring. like It's like you kind of feel it though.
00:45:19.20
AA RON
I just think it's really dumb that it's like, Oh, well they're, they're up on the top rope. It's going to be a disqualification. Oh, but they put their feet on the second rope.
00:45:24.41
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:45:26.68
AA RON
So now it's not a disqualification.
00:45:26.93
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:45:28.61
AA RON
Like, dude, come on.
00:45:28.51
Bradley Palermo
Right.
00:45:29.57
AA RON
That's dumb. That's such a weird thing to harp over.
00:45:30.69
Bradley Palermo
Yes.
00:45:33.14
AA RON
And thankfully there was only like one or two moments in the main event where somebody was, Oh, Oh, they're going to do a top rope move. And then they decided not to. So our main event of the evening, the Steiner brothers versus Terry Gordy and Dr. Death, Steve Williams for the WCW tag team championships.
00:45:51.53
AA RON
Uh, cool match. Uh, very long.
00:45:54.07
Bradley Palermo
on one second. Sorry, sorry, I'm going to interrupt you. But we have, did you want to do the, the cactus Jack was attacked and then there was the bikini contest finale.
00:45:58.47
AA RON
Oh yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
00:46:02.76
AA RON
Yeah. Do that. Do that.
00:46:04.43
Bradley Palermo
So in the post-match interview, Steamboat and was doing his classic baby face stuff. And then Cactus Jack came out to attack him.
00:46:13.42
Bradley Palermo
I guess Paul East stirring the pot. So Steamboat can't go on to affect him negatively. And whoever whichever of Paul's henchmen he's fighting next, I'm not sure who it was.
00:46:24.37
AA RON
Well, I guess, I mean, if so, that made me feel that was what made me feel like Cactus Jack was hired by Paul. And so I guess Paul is kind of just like the puppet master of all the feuds in WCW or all the big ones because he sent Cactus Jack to fight Sting before Sting fights Vader.
00:46:32.36
Bradley Palermo
Oh,
00:46:44.01
AA RON
He is now sending Cactus Jack after Steamboat so that Steamboat can't get the championship from Rick Rude.
00:46:50.74
Bradley Palermo
ah ah rude.
00:46:50.99
AA RON
So I guess, yeah, so I guess Heyman is just everyone's manager who's a heel in the 1992 WCW.
00:46:51.34
Bradley Palermo
Right. Yeah.
00:46:55.91
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Yeah. And then we move on to final but but the final contest of the bikini extraordinaire. um Johnny B. Bad exits because Jesse Ventura decides he should have been the host the whole time. He's the one with the babes. This thing all started out this whole thing started out with Jesse Ventura getting...
00:47:16.38
Bradley Palermo
lathered up with sunscreen by like four women in bikinis. So yeah.
00:47:20.97
AA RON
It did, yes.
00:47:22.03
Bradley Palermo
So the whole story here is that Missy Heights bikini has been stolen. She's naked in her, her little privacy booth. So she pulls Jesse's scarf off of his head and makes a bikini out of it Comes out wearing a Jesse Ventura bandana design bikini.
00:47:36.76
AA RON
So dumb.
00:47:38.86
Bradley Palermo
I wrote, yeah, campy, ridiculous segment. Crowd did seem into it though.
00:47:44.14
AA RON
And let's just say that was a, like, that was a horrible looking bikini.
00:47:48.24
AA RON
Like the, the like if we're, if that's, but that's what, yeah.
00:47:48.92
Bradley Palermo
Oh yeah. If you're thinking this is sexy, it's none of it is. Yeah.
00:47:53.58
AA RON
And that's what made me laugh is like, they're hyping up. Oh, the third round is going to be like the tiny bikinis. And I'm like, okay, I think I, yeah.
00:48:00.39
Bradley Palermo
weeny bikini.
00:48:02.12
AA RON
So I, I'm like, okay, I think I know what to expect here. And then I'm like, that's what you did. Like you used bandanas.
00:48:07.23
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:48:08.88
AA RON
Like it doesn't, it's not even flattering.
00:48:09.49
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:48:10.84
AA RON
Yeah.
00:48:11.48
Bradley Palermo
No, and then, and fucking Medusa didn't, I mean, she was pretty well covered too. There was nothing, I mean, but if these people think that was sexy, you know, like I can't imagine if they just saw like Tony Storm or Sky Blue in a regular match at this point.
00:48:24.60
Bradley Palermo
Like it's, it's and they're and wearing incredibly, like wait way wait wait we less than these girls, like quote unquote teeny weenie if it fucking matters.
00:48:25.72
AA RON
Yeah.
00:48:31.83
Bradley Palermo
It really doesn't, but it's in there. So I didn't want to skip over it, right?
00:48:35.32
AA RON
Yeah, no, you shouldn't skip over it. It's a part of the pay-per-view. It's a forgettable part of the pay-per-view. And then finally, we get to the main event of the evening, which is the Steiner brothers against Terry Gordy and Steve Williams.
00:48:44.39
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:48:47.20
AA RON
This was for the tag championships. And we've seen the Steiners a handful of times before. And this was, you know, I would say them at the peak of their first run in WCW.
00:49:00.60
AA RON
And Terry Gordy, I have never seen Terry Gordy before this. I've heard of him many times.
00:49:06.82
Bradley Palermo
yeah
00:49:07.19
AA RON
That's an ugly dude, man. He got a face for radio. And Dr. Death Steve Williams, we've seen before. steve Williams is the man. Both really big dudes and and very interesting to juxtapose the way that the Steiners looked versus how Gordy and and Williams looked because the Steiners are...
00:49:25.67
AA RON
pretty built pretty athletic like very clearly they were wrestlers and they're probably both four to six inches shorter than terry gordy and steve williams who are very much the like early to mid eighty s big like you know just like a chonk they're like no very little definition just like a big chonka man you know and
00:49:38.26
Bradley Palermo
So.
00:49:45.60
Bradley Palermo
yeah I'm looking at Terry Gordy now. Oh, man. That is something. He looks like just, I don't know, like a giant. Like they would make a giant look in the 80s in a TV thing.
00:49:57.18
Bradley Palermo
just like ro
00:49:58.06
AA RON
Yeah.
00:49:58.34
Bradley Palermo
Not just big, but like my face is all fucking mingled. My chin's three inches further off my nose.
00:50:02.15
AA RON
He fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. That sounds like something Cornette would say.
00:50:10.85
Bradley Palermo
Flatter than a plate of piss. Yeah.
00:50:13.89
AA RON
But, you know, for a match, not my favorite of the night.
00:50:14.02
Bradley Palermo
there all
00:50:18.43
AA RON
i think it was just because it was so long and, know,
00:50:18.88
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:50:22.19
Bradley Palermo
It was long, dude. 20 minutes long. a lot of technical wrestling.
00:50:24.87
AA RON
No, it was 30 minutes long. It was a 30 minute time limit draw.
00:50:26.95
Bradley Palermo
How was it? Oh, yeah. And it went to yeah it went to time. So, yeah, you're right.
00:50:32.16
AA RON
Yeah. So just a lot.
00:50:32.82
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:50:33.96
AA RON
I mean, and that's not to say that it wasn't a good match. It just, uh, there came a point where I was like, they're really taking their time here. You know, it was almost like what I remember some AEW matches that ended up being draws feeling like where there comes a certain point where you're like, okay,
00:50:48.96
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:50:51.57
AA RON
I don't think this is going to end with a normal fall. Like this feels like it's going to be a draw. And that's kind of the vibe I got with this match.
00:50:56.98
Bradley Palermo
yeah
00:50:59.05
AA RON
And I was right. So, uh,
00:51:00.69
Bradley Palermo
I kind of wish AEW would do more of those time matches, of or Iron Man, stuff like that.
00:51:06.40
AA RON
Yeah, because when you think about all the draws, dude, that some of the draws in AEW are incredible.
00:51:06.33
Bradley Palermo
Like this kind of made me miss some of those moments. Yeah.
00:51:12.73
Bradley Palermo
Really good.
00:51:13.04
AA RON
like
00:51:13.54
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:51:14.00
AA RON
So good. And this was not bad, but it just... It was missing something. The Steiners are very over. The crowd loves them. you know Terry Gordy and Steve Williams are very hard-hitting.
00:51:25.68
AA RON
So like it's not that the... that anything was wrong. It just like for a main event, they kept talking about the Steiners are the greatest tag team in wrestling today.
00:51:35.71
AA RON
And I'm just like, yeah, they're all right.
00:51:36.04
Bradley Palermo
yeah
00:51:37.93
AA RON
It's fine.
00:51:38.33
Bradley Palermo
I think there were times where Rick was out of was waiting on the side for his hot tag for like 20 minutes.
00:51:44.26
AA RON
Yeah, there were
00:51:44.99
Bradley Palermo
you know I think he might have even said that one time. Rick's been out of this for 20 minutes. it's like And then you get the hot tag and then that kind of wanes and then Yeah, it's interesting too, like when I watched Braun Breaker, who I kind of waxed and waned out of liking him or disliking him.
00:51:57.45
Bradley Palermo
But, you know, he does, he he has the face of his dad, but he does like the bark and and has like some of the facial hair of his uncle. So it's kind of funny how he...
00:52:05.69
Bradley Palermo
Oh,
00:52:08.58
Bradley Palermo
his dad.
00:52:08.67
AA RON
So he he's got the.
00:52:09.44
Bradley Palermo
So he looks more like his uncle.
00:52:11.14
AA RON
Yeah, he looks more like his uncle, but he's got the bark like his dad.
00:52:12.51
Bradley Palermo
Looks like his uncle, to bark like his dad, which is kind of a weird combo. Yeah, he looks he doesn't he looks so much like his uncle. That's weird.
00:52:20.22
AA RON
hmm.
00:52:21.11
Bradley Palermo
So I don't know what was going on in that family's household, but...
00:52:25.12
AA RON
I don't know that, but that's a suit. Dude. Family genetics is so weird. Like, have you ever met somebody who's like six foot five and their parents are both under six feet?
00:52:35.06
AA RON
Cause their grandparents were like six, eight or something.
00:52:35.06
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, yeah.
00:52:37.48
AA RON
Like it's so genetics is so interesting to me.
00:52:38.90
Bradley Palermo
Well, like, dude, my my aunt is like a full on like little person. And, you know, that's like I shared what 90 something percent DNA with someone that's like your mom's sister. Right.
00:52:49.62
Bradley Palermo
But I mean, I'm like six one.
00:52:49.88
AA RON
Mm. Mm.
00:52:51.18
Bradley Palermo
I'm like, how can how can I be so much taller than someone else that's like barely distance from me and my family? You know, I mean, it's weird.
00:52:57.34
AA RON
Yeah.
00:52:58.12
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. It's just genetics are crazy.
00:52:59.87
AA RON
Genetics is wild.
00:53:00.26
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:53:00.55
AA RON
Yeah.
00:53:00.75
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:53:01.66
AA RON
i' like We should do a whole episode about genetics. I don't know what we talk about. and Spring of genetics, guy.
00:53:05.39
Bradley Palermo
It's like that ICP song where they're like, oh, science, what is but his space?
00:53:06.23
AA RON
on
00:53:10.54
Bradley Palermo
Or whatever, you know? it'
00:53:12.52
AA RON
Yeah.
00:53:13.30
Bradley Palermo
But yeah, it's slow paced, but there's a lot of great technical but wrestling in there. And and it was they were telling the story.
00:53:18.25
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:53:19.75
Bradley Palermo
it was it was it It did get a little bit much, but it was fun at moments. And we ended with the time draw, which I didn't totally expect. I guess you kind of saw it coming. But um should we get into the...
00:53:29.32
AA RON
Crowd wasn't too excited about it either. Like, it like
00:53:31.48
Bradley Palermo
Nah, it's not a very good ending to a pay-per-view.
00:53:34.58
AA RON
no, time limit. So that's the thing about time limit draws, right? Is they're always unsatisfying. And then when you look back at them on them, you're like, okay, yeah, that was that was pretty cool. But like with something like this, we're never going to go back and watch this.
00:53:48.69
Bradley Palermo
Yeah. Well, should we get into the grapple grade?
00:53:51.71
AA RON
Let's do it.
00:53:52.65
Bradley Palermo
All right, so ah i don't think it's perfect. I'm not going to go with the so rewind. Well, let me back up. The three rating levels we have, fast forward, play, rewind.
00:54:03.43
Bradley Palermo
Fast forward being yay, play being... double yeah Wait, fast forward being boo. Play being yay. Rewind being double I'm going with play because there was some cool stuff. I really love this era.
00:54:18.60
Bradley Palermo
I really like early 90s, late 80s wrestling, especially WCW. It has a really cool feel to it. um We got to see a lot of stars and we got to see some cool shit. There was also some wax shit, not not the greatest finish, not the greatest thread with the bikini contest.
00:54:33.64
AA RON
Mm-hmm.
00:54:34.19
Bradley Palermo
But I can't like shit on it all together. I got to say like, i think it's a hidden gem. I think it's worth finding if you're bored on Peacock and want to see something that maybe you haven't stumbled across before, um check it out.
00:54:44.88
Bradley Palermo
What would you say? What say you, Aaron? Aaron?
00:54:47.52
AA RON
I think I would say the same. Yeah, i I, it's not worth skipping, because there is some good stuff here and it's not on the level of some of the pay-per-views that we've covered previously where it's like, holy shit, start to finish. This is insane. This is a play for me.
00:55:04.28
AA RON
It's good, but not great. I think that just like you said, you can turn it on and there will be some really good stuff. There'll be some stuff that you can fast forward through And overall, it was an enjoyable watch.
00:55:35.28
Bradley Palermo
All right, now it's time for some listener correspondence with my evil, evil modem, dial up modem from hell.
00:55:41.23
AA RON
Modem.
00:55:43.13
Bradley Palermo
Let's see, what do we got here on the old TikTok? We've got some, you've got some heat this week, Aaron.
00:55:49.05
AA RON
Oh, boy.
00:55:49.09
Bradley Palermo
You said, you said last week, that current WWE and AEW stars don't get heat like the old guys got. They don't get real heat like they did back in the day.
00:56:02.14
Bradley Palermo
So Dirt on TikTok, just how'd you get that name? Just D-I-R-T. It must have been an early adopter, Dirt. Dirt on TikTok says, that um Moxley's last world title run had real heat. So they take issue with that. And I ended up talking with them a little bit. They're like, that's the only reason Hangman is such a good baby face now. And I was like, okay, yeah.
00:56:22.23
AA RON
I don't necessarily disagree, but I think I I think that it's a mixture of heat that he created for himself and then he just around the situation of the story not being particularly good of him constantly winning through interference.
00:56:33.61
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:56:37.72
Bradley Palermo
I don't think...
00:56:41.21
AA RON
Like I don't disagree with you. Dirt was a dirt or was it dirty?
00:56:45.05
Bradley Palermo
Dirt D I R T.
00:56:46.24
AA RON
I don't disagree with you, dirt, but I think like It's not as cut and dry as what either of us said in reality. I don't disagree, but...
00:56:53.15
Bradley Palermo
Right. I don't think that Jon Moxley is going to walk out into the parking lot and get stabbed by a fan while he's trying to like take a piss on the side of the building, you know?
00:57:01.74
AA RON
Yeah, I mean... In reality, no one's going to have that happen to them anymore because we all know that they're playing characters.
00:57:05.47
Bradley Palermo
Right.
00:57:11.26
AA RON
Whereas maybe in the 80s people knew, but it was a little easier to forget, if that makes sense.
00:57:19.00
Bradley Palermo
and And then Jack period Brown nine, Jack Brown nine, uh, waited on what you were saying on Tik TOK too. I think they agree with you a little bit more, but they said it's lower level heat, but Blake Christian gets good heat.
00:57:31.17
Bradley Palermo
So they wanted to shout out to Blake Christian. I mean, I've seen Blake Christian in the Indies for years. Uh, He, you know, he had that GCW belt for about a year. He was the world champion. He didn't look like a world champion. He would come out and he would wipe his ass with like the, with the belt.
00:57:45.60
Bradley Palermo
You know, he was like very, I mean, you fucking hated him. Now in AW, I don't know if of what he's doing to get great heat.
00:57:49.42
AA RON
Yeah.
00:57:51.66
Bradley Palermo
I'm not sure. I see him pop up on ring of honor and stuff, um but yeah, he, he's great because he doesn't look, he looks kind of like a young Brad.
00:57:58.36
AA RON
He looks like a baby face. Yeah.
00:57:59.58
Bradley Palermo
Yeah, and he's just kind of, yeah, you're kind of like, what the fuck is this prick doing? And then he wins. So he does get heat. I mean, I give him that.
00:58:06.49
AA RON
That's cool. Yeah, I can respect that. Look, i my opinion comes from my very narrow view of wrestling. I don't watch everything. I'm sure there are people who are getting real heat.
00:58:17.75
AA RON
I think in general, it's just not the same. you know like when i mean When Jerry Lawler tells stories about coming out after matches and all four of his tires are slashed...
00:58:31.06
AA RON
but and so like somebody's waiting in the parking lot with a brick, and Jerry's like, don't throw that, and then they throw it at his windshield.
00:58:31.42
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:58:35.48
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:58:37.92
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:58:39.10
AA RON
just... i just
00:58:40.62
Bradley Palermo
Guns, knives, you know, that kind of shit.
00:58:42.19
AA RON
Yeah, it's just that doesn't happen anymore. And that's good. Like, we don't want that happening.
00:58:46.63
Bradley Palermo
Yeah.
00:58:48.36
AA RON
But I think there's a reason why it did. And my guess is that things were just a little bit more believable. And kayfabe was a little bit more alive then than it is now.
00:59:00.84
Bradley Palermo
Yes, yes. So do you have thoughts? Disagree with our rankings? Want to tell us who really won the bikini contest? Leave us a voicemail, 626-657-SLAM!
00:59:11.64
Bradley Palermo
lamb
00:59:12.39
Bradley Palermo
Or you can always email us grapplecityrewind at gmail.com. We are also at grapplecitypod on TikTok at grapplecitytod.
00:59:27.31
Bradley Palermo
We are at grapplecitypod on TikTok and Instagram and all those other social media places. um We'll read the best ones on the air, especially if you're angry or nostalgic or weird or just have a good point to make.
00:59:39.10
Bradley Palermo
This was my pick. So next week, how about you want to throw one out there, Aaron, for us to watch?
00:59:44.14
AA RON
Yeah, I've got one picked out. I thought that since we will be recording it in the month of August that I would stick with the year 1992. However, we're going to jump to the other side of the tracks and we're going to watch...
00:59:54.78
Bradley Palermo
Hmm.
00:59:57.58
Bradley Palermo
Ooh. Ooh.
00:59:59.18
AA RON
Probably one of the biggest, the biggest old pay-per-views that we have not watched yet.
00:59:59.52
Bradley Palermo
okay
01:00:04.11
AA RON
And that is SummerSlam 1992, which was the Wembley 80,000 people, Bret Hart versus Bulldog is the main event.
01:00:07.27
Bradley Palermo
Oh, fuck yeah.
01:00:11.70
Bradley Palermo
I love it.
01:00:14.08
Bradley Palermo
i love that one. And i I think this will be cool because it's one that I've seen multiple times and I still love it. And I i'll have a reason not to pause it or come back to it just to watch it straight through.
01:00:24.82
Bradley Palermo
My first time watching it, taking notes.
01:00:25.12
AA RON
Yeah.
01:00:27.04
Bradley Palermo
SummerSlam 92. Hell yeah. Well, that's it. That's all we have for this week. Thanks for joining us for this beachside brawl of its nostalgia. We will be back in a couple of weeks or so, and we will catch you soon, or maybe we'll see you in the cheap seats.
01:00:42.29
AA RON
Bye everyone.
01:00:43.07
Bradley Palermo
don't know. Good enough. Good enough for rock and roll.
01:00:44.98
AA RON
Good enough. Yeah.
